tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post114072708158287280..comments2023-05-11T06:38:10.143-07:00Comments on Radon Thoughts: "Between faith and reason"Lockheedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1143441430820615592006-03-26T22:37:00.000-08:002006-03-26T22:37:00.000-08:00I do not believe that there is "murder involved in...I do not believe that there is "murder involved in war", if we're talking about killing occuring in battle as opposed to killing of civiliains etc. God demanded in the Law "do not murder" but later demands that Israel destroy their enemies in battle. Many men, women and even children were killed yet those involved were not guilty of "murder".Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1141937101658832472006-03-09T12:45:00.000-08:002006-03-09T12:45:00.000-08:00"How far do we take this? We've reached the point ..."How far do we take this? We've reached the point in society where "murder" is defined as matter of faith, not reason, as is the case in abortion... I think Van Til was right, at least on this issue, its not "if god" but "which (G)od". A society whose morals (as if there can be "morals" in a system that accepts and promotes secular humanistic evolution as a fact) are subjective, based on the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1141027703741132402006-02-27T00:08:00.000-08:002006-02-27T00:08:00.000-08:00I think you've clarified well. I think, however, L...I think you've clarified well. I think, however, Luther's definition (as per the bit of that article I read) is flawed in that it seemingly viewed reason always from the perspective of the unregenerate. It is in this way that the message of the cross is foolishness to unbelievers, not merely because it is unaccessable to them but because their reasoning is tainted with sin. As Romans 1 expresses,Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1141009066866902862006-02-26T18:57:00.000-08:002006-02-26T18:57:00.000-08:00http://user.txcyber.com/~wd5iqr/tcl/hein.htmIntere...http://user.txcyber.com/~wd5iqr/tcl/hein.htm<BR/><BR/>Interesting, too.<BR/><BR/>I would say that "Reason" is "figuring something out" instead of just perceiving and accepting something as true. So, for example: If someone tells you "2+2=5" and you accept their word for it, you aren't using reason. If someone says that same thing to you and you figure in your head that 2+2 cannot be five, you Kobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135203419996332247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1140995009557541022006-02-26T15:03:00.000-08:002006-02-26T15:03:00.000-08:00An interesting comparitive:http://www.ccir.ed.ac.u...An interesting comparitive:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ccir.ed.ac.uk/~jad/welty/anatomy.htmLockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1140994970705756552006-02-26T15:02:00.000-08:002006-02-26T15:02:00.000-08:00"Reason is possible for those who aren't Christian...<I>"Reason is possible for those who aren't Christians"</I><BR/>It depends to what extent we define reason. A natural, unregenerate man can reason 1+1=2 and upwards from there, they will never, however, reason to the Sovereign Creator who died on a tree.<BR/><BR/>I don't think we're talking past one another, but we're talking to different forms and means of 'reason'. <BR/><BR/>If one takes the Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1140982471351070092006-02-26T11:34:00.000-08:002006-02-26T11:34:00.000-08:00Micah: "There's a difference between what Luke is ...Micah: "There's a difference between what Luke is talking about and how "the message of the Cross" is taken by men. As my friend says, the Gospel seems upside down but it is the world that is upside down because of sin. Thus true "reason" is impossible without a Chrsitian worldview."<BR/><BR/>Kobra: Yeah, if I'm grasping what you are saying correctly, I'd still have to disagree. Certainly ReasonKobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135203419996332247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1140943084514815942006-02-26T00:38:00.000-08:002006-02-26T00:38:00.000-08:00There's a difference between what Luke is talking...There's a difference between what Luke is talking about and how "the message of the Cross" is taken by men. As my friend says, the Gospel seems upside down but it is the world that is upside down because of sin. Thus true "reason" is impossible without a Chrsitian worldview.Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6710587.post-1140832598321665742006-02-24T17:56:00.000-08:002006-02-24T17:56:00.000-08:00Micah: …and the reexamining of history though a sp...Micah: …and the reexamining of history though a specifically anti-religious lens, "A third of the population of Germany perished during a single 30-year doctrinal dispute between Catholics, Lutherans and Calvinists", suggesting that a single doctrinal dispute separated those groups and caused the chaos that was ultimately the result of the leadership of the countries involved and had little to doKobrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135203419996332247noreply@blogger.com